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Any Old Iron 12:05 Wed Jan 17
This VAR bollox

Already VAR is being misused.

VAR is supposed to only be used when a "clear and obvious mistake" has been made. Well tonight Leicester had an offside decision overturned and had the goal awarded thanks to VAR.
The only trouble is that no way was it a clear and obvious mistake by the lino. I've seen it and I still think the player was offside, but even if I'm wrong there is no way it was a clear and obvious mistake.

By the way, supposing the keeper had seen the flag raised so didn't make an attempt to save the shot, but VAR give it.
How the fuck can that be fair.

The whole thing is flawed and will only lead to even more controversey.

Willtell 12:07 Wed Jan 17
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It was offside so VAR did well...

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 12:15 Wed Jan 17
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He's right. A week in and it's being misused. It doesn't matter if the decision it came to was right, it's already gone beyond it's brief and will result in games lasting forever as eventually all marginal calls are examined. This misuse is what has led to its use being curtailed/restricted in many other sports.

cygnet 12:15 Wed Jan 17
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Inclined to agree with Any Old Iron. The keeper may have seen the lino raise his flag.
I suppose now it won't even be enough to play to the whistle. Players will have to presume VAR might be used.

Lily Hammer 12:19 Wed Jan 17
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I imagine it was clear and obvious to those in a position to watch TV replays, and got the right decision. If my keeper told me he didn't bother trying to save a shot because he saw a flag, I'd be fuming at the lack of effort and his focus on linemen instead of strikers about to shoot.

Hollow rant, AOI.

Keep dreaming 12:19 Wed Jan 17
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It was not offside. VAR was used to its purpose, to correct fault decision making.

You think Watford's goal this week would stand with VAR in use?

Hermit Road 12:21 Wed Jan 17
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The geezer on the wireless said that even on the first replays he thought it was offside until they showed one with lines across the screen.

That being said, the replay he eventually saw does make it clear and obvious that the goal should have stood so it could be argued that it was used correctly.

Takashi Miike 12:23 Wed Jan 17
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best thread title of the year so far :.)

Keep dreaming 12:24 Wed Jan 17
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Correct Hermit, the blue lines made it easier to make the correct decision.
It was close as fuck, but still onside.

Alfs 12:28 Wed Jan 17
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You're misunderstanding the use of VAR. If the VAR spots an error regarding the awarding of goals, penalty decisions, straight red cards or cases of mistaken identity it is allowed to alert the referee of the error.

Haz 12:29 Wed Jan 17
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FUCK the VAR!

Modern football is so shit sometimes.

Fuck em all!

Any Old Iron 12:30 Wed Jan 17
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Lily Hammer 12:19 Wed Jan 17

Hollow rant? You cheeky cunt.
But you're too stupid to ignore my main point - it was not a "clear and obvious error". It was a hairline decision, and so nothing like "clear and obvious".

zebthecat 12:31 Wed Jan 17
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It if helps to get decisions right then I am all for it.
Still fuming about Bourmenouth's third.

Keep dreaming 12:32 Wed Jan 17
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Fuck the modern football. The cheating of the overpaid cunts, and the poor refereeing by biased refs has to stop.

Bless the VAR

Keep dreaming 12:36 Wed Jan 17
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AOI, ofc it wasn't clear and obvious. I think a linesman would flag that 99/100 times.
But var is there to help, and it did.

Any Old Iron 12:37 Wed Jan 17
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Alfs 12:28 Wed Jan 17

FFS along comes another of the hard of thinking brigade. It's not me who misunderstands how VAR should be used, it's the bloke in front of the screen.
At the risk of repeating myself they are there only to intervene on "CLEAR AND OBVIOUS ERRORS".
Leicesters goal tonight did not come into that category.

Keep dreaming 12:39 Wed Jan 17
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If that's the case AOI, you are right.
Where does it say though that it has to be an obvious error?

Any Old Iron 12:41 Wed Jan 17
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In the FA'S rules off course.

master 12:42 Wed Jan 17
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i've been saying this has been implemented wrong for some time now.

today's itchynacho goes through on goal, it's a tight offside given by the linesman. striker does well to tuck it away regardless and it goes to VAR. it's given upon review. however, the goalkeeper has seen the flag and not bothered to make the effort to save?!

players will have to learn to essentially NOT play to the whistle (or cues that they have been used to for a very long time).

it should just be an extra ref, locked in a room with multiple tv's (say 5) with live feed and a series of delayed feeds (15 seconds, 25 seconds, 45 seconds & 60 seconds).

with the above data, if at any point he sees something amiss, he alerts the on field ref and talks to him to let HIM make the final call. none of this referral crap.

all we want is obvious errors to be removed. i think the above will do that. the system they've employed is nearer to trying to essentially make a system for ALL decisions, like they use for cricket, rugby, etc.

Alfs 12:44 Wed Jan 17
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AOI - he was watching it on multi-screens from his crows nest. He saw, probably during the replay, that the goal should have stood and alerted the referee.

All of the media are saying how it was 'successfully' used, so either I and them are missing something or you've misunderstood.

Any Old Iron 12:53 Wed Jan 17
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Well Alfs, from what I can see the only people claiming that tonights decision vindicates VAR are the cheerleaders of the system and are deliberately ignoring the actual rule, which is what the VAR official and you have done.

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